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魏京生:"中共偷竊美國技術主要有兩個途徑。一個是派人混進美國公司或者科研機構,或者收買其中的工作人員。另一個就是通過合作項目直接偷取技術。這些技術除了增強中國軍工企業的技術之外,還被出賣給北韓、伊朗、巴基斯坦等國,間接地威脅世界的安全。一些美國公司故意把技術偷偷地輸送到美國的敵對方。敵方的技術水平提高了,他們就有理由申請經費研究更新的技術。但像宇航局這樣的國營單位也搞合作輸出技術,讓我很不好理解。"

 

 


2013年4月11日,魏京生與黃慈萍應美國國會眾議員弗蘭克·沃爾夫邀請,與包括宇航局局長查爾斯・博爾登在內的美國航空航天局的最高官員在沃爾夫的辦公室會談。

美國宇航局一直在積極尋求與中共政府帶有軍事目的的"國防科技"的航天項目合作。而作為美國國會眾議院撥款委員會的主管商務、司法、及科學分委員會主席的眾議員弗蘭克·沃爾夫先生,則非常熟悉高科技對中國這樣的專制國家所能提供的幫助。多年來,沃爾夫先生一直是為包括中國這樣的專制國家裡的人們呼籲的人權領袖。

魏京生先生和黃慈萍女士以自己的親身經歷和細節知識向美國宇航局的官員介紹中國的真相,尤其是中共政府熱衷於獲取高科技的真實性質,以及可能帶來的後果。

魏京生先生告訴美國宇航局官員:"中共偷竊美國技術主要有兩個途徑。一個是派人混進美國公司或者科研機構,或者收買其中的工作人員。另一個就是通過合作項目直接偷取技術。這些技術除了增強中國軍工企業的技術之外,還被出賣給北朝鮮伊朗、巴基斯坦等國,間接地威脅世界的安全。"

魏先生說:"一些美國公司故意把技術偷偷地輸送到美國的敵對方。敵方的技術水平提高了,他們就有理由申請經費研究更新的技術。但像宇航局這樣的國營單位也搞合作輸出技術,讓我很不好理解。"

黃女士就她過去的兩個不同角色與宇航局官員交流。一個是她作核科學研究的角色。作為一個高中沒畢業就跳級上大學的孩子,她曾以瑪麗・居里夫人為榜樣來攻讀核物理學。

"我大學畢業後在原子能科學研究院工作。這曾是中共政府研製原子彈的地方。但當時有兩個問題困擾著我。一個是中共政府積極出口核技術到巴基斯坦,後來又到了朝鮮和伊朗等國家。另一個就是原子能科學研究院有個秘密的的'武器部'。儘管那還是出國很難的階段,但相關的科學家們卻可以很容易地出訪美國如勞倫斯・利弗莫爾國家實驗室和洛斯阿拉莫斯國家實驗室,最終研製出中國的中子彈。"

"我的學生領袖的角色則使我得以了解其他中國的學生和學者。我曾任全美學自聯主席和全球學聯主席。我得知一些中國學生因某些原因不得不對中共政府做出為之獲得高科技信息的承諾。當然,他們自己也常能得到經濟上的好處。其實,在某些情況下,相比較美國自身的安全和世界的和平,美國公司的經濟利益損失還不是最糟的。"

作為自1984年起就使用網際網路的老用戶,曾任電腦網路管理的黃慈萍還向美國宇航局官員談及中共使用先進的資訊技術進行信息封鎖及追蹤持不同政見者。高科技是好,但不能為一個邪惡政權所用。"過去,持不同政見者從公共電話亭給我們打電話,中共需要好幾分鐘才能跟蹤上。但現在,由於美國科技的幫助,中共可以馬上找到。"

黃慈萍還講述了她自己在1998年中共秘密警察打交道的往事。"他們告訴我,如果我與中共合作,就可以有一個更好的結果,包括發財的機會。我過去的一個熟人,也曾是全美學自聯的成員,已經成為億萬富翁,是排位76的中國最有錢的人。他幫助中共建造了用於限制自由和鎮壓人民的網絡防火牆。"

宇航局局長博爾登敘述了他在中國的經驗及他對中國的看法。黃慈萍女士回應說:"中共政府與中國人民是不同的。與美國不同的是,中共政府不是由中國人民選舉產生的。它壓迫人民。"

其他幾位人權活動人士包括勞改基金會的負責人、美國之音中文部主任、對華援助協會負責人、世界維吾爾代表大會負責人、國際聲援西藏代表等也出席了會議,並表達了自己的意見。

Wei Jingsheng and Huang Ciping Invited by Rep. Wolf to Meet and Talk with

Top NASA Officials

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On April11,2013, Wei Jingsheng and Huang Ciping were invited by Rep.

Frank Wolf to meet with several top officials of NASA, including the

Administrator of NASA, Charles Bolden, at Rep. Wolf's office.

NASA has been actively seeking to partner with the Chinese government on

space endeavors that the Chinese government treats as"a national defense

program" due to its military nature. Rep. Frank Wolf(R-VA), Chairman of

the Appropriations' Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science of the US

House, has been very knowledgeable about how high-tech could help

suppressive regimes such as China. For years now, Mr. Wolf has been a

leading champion of human rights for the people in the suppressive

countries, including China.

Mr. Wei and Ms. Huang talked to the NASA officials about the truth in

China, through their own personal experience and detailed knowledge of the

true nature of Chinese government's interests to obtain high-level

technology, as well as the possible consequences.

Mr. Wei told the NASA officials that there are two main ways for Communist

China to steal American technology. One is to send someone sneaking into

U.S. companies or research institutions, or to buy one of their staff out.

Another is to directly steal technology through cooperation programs.

These technologies have not only been used to enhance the technology of

Chinese military enterprises, but also have been sold to North Korea,

Iran, Pakistan and other countries, which indirectly threaten the security

of the world.

Mr. Wei said:"Some U.S. companies are deliberately transporting their

technology secretly. The purpose is to raise the technical level of the

enemy, thus they have reason to apply for more funding for research for

updating technology and equipment. However, I do not understand why NASA,

a national enterprise funded by the US Congress, would also want to engage

in that type of cooperation to export technology."

Huang Ciping spoke from two different roles she had in the past. One was

the role of researcher in nuclear science. Once a prodigy child who

attended college without going through high school, she took Madame Marie

Curie as role model to study nuclear physics."After my graduation, I was

working at the Institute of Atomic Energy, which was the place where the

Chinese government designed the nuclear bomb. However, there were two

issues that disturbed me. One was that the Chinese government was

actively exporting nuclear technology to countries like Pakistan, later on

to North Korea and Iran, etc. The other was that there was a secret

'weaponry department' in the Institute composed of Chinese scientists who

could easily visit places like the Lawrence Livermore National Lab and the

Los Alamos National Lab even during the days travel to abroad was very

difficult. Thus ultimately the Communist regime gained the way to make

the neutron bomb."

Ms. Huang said:"The other role was my role as a student leader where I

gained access to other students and scholars. I was the president of

IFCSS(Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars, USA) and

president of the Global Chinese Student Union. I learned that some

students had to promise the Chinese government to gain high-tech

information for various reasons. Of course, often there is a financial

incentive for them to gain. However, in some cases, what the financial

interest American companies lost is not even as bad as the damage to

American's own security and world peace."

As a decades old Internet user since1984 and once a computer network

manager, Huang Ciping also briefed the NASA officials on how the advanced

IT industry has helped the Chinese government to block information flow

and track down dissidents. High-tech is good, but not in an evil regime's

hand."Before when a dissident was calling us from a pay phone, it took

minutes for the Communist regime to locate the phone. Now, with the help

of American technology, it can be pinned down immediately."

Huang Ciping recounted her own experience in dealing with the secret

police in China in1998."I was told that I could have a much better

perspective if I cooperate with the Communist government, including to be

rich. By doing so, one of my old acquaintance who was also an IFCSS

member, became a billionaire, ranked as the number76 richest person in

China. What he did was to help the Chinese government build the great

firewall in China, which is used to restrict freedom and suppress people."

As Administrator Bolden expressed his experience and his views on China,

Ms. Huang responded:"The Chinese government is different from the Chinese

people. Unlike in the USA, the Chinese people do not elect The Chinese

government. It suppresses its people."

Several other human rights activists include head of Laogai Research

Foundation, VOA China Branch chief, head of China Aid Association, head of

World Uyghur Congress, representative from International Campaign for

Tibet, etc. also attended the meeting and spoke of their views.

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